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Attention, don't give away your work!

Fri Dec 28, 2012, 4:00 PM
If possible please :+fav: this news article so that more people can see it and be wary, thank you! :pray:

This week I received messages from two different people (through Etsy and Storenvy) offering to make a review of my work. They splattered huge statics, like having millions of instagram followers, popularity, or having done it before and making people famous. Of course, their generosity was conditioned by me agreeing to send them some of my work for free. While I don't object the concept of reviewing someone's work, I worry that this has become a popular way of scamming artisan crafters to give away their work for free with promises of exposure and increasing their sales. I wanted to write this journal to tell everyone to be careful, specially if you're just starting your business and struggling to get noticed, it may sound tempting but you should never give away your hard work!

One of them was even more blunt and said that he could write a positive review of my work just by sending him money, he would post my pics with positive reviews for his "thousands of followers to see".

Statics can be faked, watchers and followers can be bought, success histories can be invented. Even more, the people that I've seen doing the best job getting new artists out there do it for free, just out of kindness or vocation. There's some pretty established and trustworthy people that review crafts, but most of them buy everything with their own money and don't ask for free things, and when people offer to send them things for review they usually send them back at request. I'm afraid that lately there's a trend of scammers doing anything they can to get things for free.

I just wanted to let people know, and if you receive a message like the ones I described decide for yourself if that person deserves your trust or not. Please spread the word and be wary.

EDIT: Also here's GrandmaThunderpants comment on the issue, she experienced this before: comments.deviantart.com/1/3453…

Happy New Year everyone!
Talty

A message alerting artisan crafters and all artists about scammers going around lately.
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:iconmezay12:
mezay12 Featured By Owner Mar 12, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
I've had about 10-12 people contacting me- once I tell them that they have to fund the shipping, they disappear :)
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:iconzoogoo40:
Zoogoo40 Featured By Owner Mar 11, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
My work's not good enough for people to want to scam me. ;)
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:iconfrozennote:
FrozenNote Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
I got scammed like that too ._. This girl, Molly, she showed me her facebook and blog and all that ( [link] ), it seemed pretty legit.. So I sent her 20$ worth of stuff... She then kept making excuses for not replying, then her etsy got banned. I messaged the facebook page, thinking I got scammed, but the girl actually replied, saying no. Then we continued to chat on gmail for about a month, and she kept saying that my stuff got lost in the mail and so on, her mailman doesn't know anything, blah blah, and that she will ask him about it "tomorrow". After I didn't get anything from her for a week, I just gave up.

Don't ever trust these guys. I've had countless offers like these before, but I trusted just this one because it seemed really legit. It wasn't. Like Talty said, things like that can be faked.
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013   Artisan Crafter
I'm so sorry you were scammed, that's awful :iconcryforeverplz: I hate that kind of people, at least I hope this kind of stories keep other people alert :(
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:iconfrozennote:
FrozenNote Featured By Owner Jan 17, 2013  Professional Artisan Crafter
I hope so too! :C
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:iconropeobsession:
RopeObsession Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist Writer
Thumbs up !
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
:la:
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:iconmarimariakutsu:
marimariakutsu Featured By Owner Jan 7, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
I'm in this sort of situation myself right now T.T I'm confused....
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Don't give away your hard work! :(
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:iconmindslave24-7:
Mindslave24-7 Featured By Owner Jan 5, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
They're not getting my stuff.
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Yay that's great! :la:
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:iconmindslave24-7:
Mindslave24-7 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Those I give it to, I know who they are.
And why they get it.
:nod:
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Same here, it's good to give away your work to friends but not to strangers with empty promises!
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:iconmindslave24-7:
Mindslave24-7 Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Nope. Never. :no:
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:icongunslingergal:
gunslingergal Featured By Owner Jan 4, 2013
Thanks for the heads up!
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
My pleasure :D
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:iconkageshoujo:
kageshoujo Featured By Owner Jan 2, 2013  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I'll be sharing this on my facebook. Thanks for the heads up, Talty! I don't know if this is the same, but in my wordpress blog with my crafts someone commented, (thrice, actually!) that she wanted my product, and that she followed my blogged and liked my page on facebook and gave me her email to contact. The thing is, when I checked, she didn't do any of the following, and the email she gave me was closed so the email i sent her bounced back to me. So I just ignored her.

Locally in my country, there are shops who give their items for free to be reviewed; mostly to influential bloggers or personalities, but I also notice that these people have been their trusted customers before. I am also considering offering work for free for someone, like a sponsorship, but it's for someone who is already a trusted customer of mine. If anyone out there is looking for a boost and someone to review your work, best ask someone who's already a regular customer of yours.
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:iconcrimsonmagpie:
CrimsonMagpie Featured By Owner Jan 1, 2013  Professional Traditional Artist
I'm glad you're giving people this heads-up, so many amateur artists seem to be painfully naive and unaware of the kind of shit that people try to pull....
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:icondoglover321:
dogLover321 Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
That's good advice
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
I hope it helps :D
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:iconagirlandherclay:
agirlandherclay Featured By Owner Dec 31, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I have had this happen to me at least twice on Etsy. They make the promise that they'll come back and buy lots of stuff, but there's no proof that they will once they get what they want for free. I even had one girl get upset at me because I refused! She changed her tune once I said I was going to report her to the Etsy administrators.
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:iconfafatonk3kusruk:
fafatonk3kusruk Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
can you put the of that scum? so people will be warned
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Already deleted their account :(
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:iconcolormymemory:
ColorMyMemory Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Very helpful advice.
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Yay :D
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:icongelliiace:
GelliiAce Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
i have actually experienced this. the deviant noted me saying that i should post my work to this website to get more exposure and stuff.

but i just ignored it and didnt even bother clicking the site for fear of getting a virus...
when i went to that deviant's account, there's nothing in there, like no artworks and she didnt post any comments at all and i found it suspicious that he/she will be sending notes like those when he/she was just a newbie...

so i reported the note as spam after. :)
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:iconkruyken827:
kruyken827 Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for the warning, much appreciated!
I don't look kindly unto people who like to BUY other people's talent...:angered:
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:iconadquatt:
ADQuatt Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012
Trust no one.
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
Sadly, yes :(
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:iconunrehearsedsplendour:
UnrehearsedSplendour Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Professional General Artist
Thanks for this! :highfive:

:+fav:ed!
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
No problem, and thanks :D
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:iconredroronoa:
RedRoronoa Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Thank you for the warning, and happy new years to you too! :aww:
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
No problem, and thank you :meow:
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:iconscootie-chan:
Scootie-chan Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
Yay~
Thanks for the warning~ ^^
Ah~
Happy new year~~~~<33
:iconawplz:::iconredroseplz::iconwhiteroseplz::iconyellowroseplz::iconblueroseplz::iconrubcheeksplz:
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 8, 2013   Artisan Crafter
No problem, and thank you Happy New Year to you too! lovely emotes :D
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:iconscootie-chan:
Scootie-chan Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013  Hobbyist General Artist
Hehe yay~<3
:iconawplz: aw~ thank you~~~:iconcblushplz:
:iconredroseplz:
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:icontalty:
Talty Featured By Owner Jan 9, 2013   Artisan Crafter
No problem ^^
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:iconukiyamiangel:
UkiyamiAngel Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012   Traditional Artist
way to go for the new years~! Keeping people aware and safe of their art what a perfect way to do so x3
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:iconmaajora:
Maajora Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I agree, what's the point of giving positive feedback if it's not meant anyway?
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:iconhikarilayla:
HikariLayla Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Hobbyist General Artist
I don't know scammers or not but i feel one of my photo missing T.T
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:icondrydell-da-vinci:
Drydell-da-Vinci Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
So this is how these kinds of scams work... Thanks for the heads up ^^
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:iconsiochanna:
Siochanna Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012   Photographer
Found this on the journal portal. So you are getting the message out there. I wouldn't trust someone who wanted rights to my work. Even if I didn't plan on selling it, it's not my job as an individual to empower a corporation that is not working to benefit me.

If I want to copyleft something, I can do that too. It's my right to say who can and cannot use it, and if I want people to be free to use it if they are interested, no one has the right to take that away. I would not give away the rights, but define the item as free. That way all can use it and no one has a monopoly. I'm still the only one who has any right to a monopoly, if that is the route I choose.
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:iconilikeshiniesfakery:
ilikeshiniesfakery Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Artisan Crafter
I find this so frustrating. I've had emails sent through my Etsy, Facebook page and even my private email -NOT my business one though.

I've had people asking for specific items to 'one of everything' to 'anything you have spare'.
At first I found it particularly flattering, which is the trap they set for people just starting out. Now I just find it rude.

I have wonderful customers who do the reviews for me when they buy my products, I don't need validation from a complete stranger who can't even be bothered to 'like' my facebook page despite loving my work oh so much.

Word to the wise, thanks for the heads up Talty.
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:iconhinamoribu:
hinamoribu Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student Digital Artist
:( thats such an awful thing do to
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:iconmero12345:
mero12345 Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
This is horrible :( I mean getting free stuff is nice but to get them through this method really shows that you don`t appreciate the artists hard work. If the artist were to give a free artwork for you as a surprise or a gift then I would appreciate it in a good way but to go through this hassle just to get some items is just a waste of time and shows no appreciation at all for the artist who has put the time and manner to think and create the work.

Lols I don`t even know if I`m making sense at all but I hope people get what I mean.
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:iconaversionem:
aversionem Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012
my art is shitty i think i'm safe of scams
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:icondrydell-da-vinci:
Drydell-da-Vinci Featured By Owner Dec 30, 2012  Student Traditional Artist
:iconmingpffplz::iconohstopityouplz: I saw your stuff you know.
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:iconkohakujsma:
KohakuJSMA Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Traditional Artist
AWESOME! thanks! VERY helpful!
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:iconyuisama:
yuisama Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Student Artisan Crafter
excellent message!
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:iconsonicsvampiregf:
SonicsVampireGF Featured By Owner Dec 29, 2012  Hobbyist Digital Artist
thanks for telling :)
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